Wednesday, January 25, 2006
The Price of Peace

 

 

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Critics of the war in Iraq often complain about the "escalating cost of the war." Listening to

 them, you'd never know that the war is one of the least expensive in American history.
Robert Whaples, professor of economics at Wake Forest University, has measured the cost of each major American war up through the first Gulf War. We took these costs and compared them to the cost of the Iraq war and found that the Iraq experience has consumed a smaller percentage of GDP (just 2 percent of one year's wealth creation) than every other American war except the first Gulf War (which measured just 1 percent of GDP).


This stands in stark contrast to the Vietnam experience, which opponents have often attempted to liken to the Iraq war. Vietnam comprised a much heartier 12 percent of GDP at the time. Other conflicts, such as World War II, took a remarkable 130 percent of a year's GDP to see through to success.

The work is not done in Iraq, and the financial costs will grow beyond the $251 billion we have spent so far. The real cost, of course, is in human lives, manifested in the debate about whether it is worth losing a few thousand American lives in order to liberate 23 million people. But the data are clear; any attempt to discredit this war based on its effect on the U.S. economy is an unnecessary distraction.






An often-used phrase by the left to criticize the War on Terror states that "Peace is Priceless" which is usually accompanied by a flier that contains a dubious body count figure. I counter this statement and figure by simply asking: "If peace is priceless, why count the cost?" Thanks to Robert Whaples of Wake Forest University, the true costs of peace are illuminated, much to the chagrin of those whose oppose the WOT.



Posted at 11:11 pm by skyeblue

JM
February 23, 2006   02:52 PM PST
 
Poor Jo would like us to forget that Saddam was paying the families of Palestinian suicide bombers $25K, Ghaddafi called Sylvio Berlusconi to say, "I will do whatever the Americans want, because I saw what happened to Saddam," and that the forces behind more democratic elections in Lebanon, Egypt and even Saudi Arabia have all cited the Iraqi elections as proof that the Middle East can change.
Jo
February 22, 2006   07:01 AM PST
 
Skye:

I think you place far too much on the removal of Saddam as a necessary precondition for the other things you ascribe to that event.

The Israel/Palestine problems predate Saddam by many decades for a start. Never forget the internal rivalries between different Arab states.

I reiterate my horror at the price of this war in terms of human life (even if theyre JUST Muslim lives!) as the harvest for the future will be reaped by a future generation.

Your mythology as regards Saddam's *influence* is dervied from lies told by Bush Snr 15 years ago and appear to be perpetuated by your rhetoric.

I will be posting on the link between the Bush administrations shortly, if youre interested.
Skye
January 29, 2006   11:20 PM PST
 
Consequences?

Such as Iraq becoming the focal point in the democratization of the Middle East?

Lybia giving up its WMD program, Egypt holding free elections, Lebanon, and even Palestine taking baby steps to a more democratic future.

NONE of this would have been possible without the removal of saddam and the institution of a representative government in Iraq. ( Note that this is the first such government in the entire Arab world.)

The cradle of terrorism is slowly being dismantled. This is legacy we have created fo our future generations.


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I focus on what the consequences of the Iraqi war and the so called WoT will be for future generations. The current war may be "cheap" by the standards outlined above but the consequences are unknowable.
Skye
January 29, 2006   10:39 PM PST
 

Nothing can surpass the human cost of appeasement in the place of defense.

To ignore the "costs" of peace is truly reprehensible.
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As for the comment that the war "is a good investment" -horrific disregard for human costs.
Jo
January 29, 2006   07:02 AM PST
 
A dirty device might only cost a few thousand dollars or pounds but lead to unforeseeable human and financial consequences.

I focus on what the consequences of the Iraqi war and the so called WoT will be for future generations. The current war may be "cheap" by the standards outlined above but the consequences are unknowable. I dont think those who have lost family members would in any sense be reassured by its "cheapness"

As for the comment that the war "is a good investment" -horrific disregard for human costs. I can only assume that this comment is a joke? Probably not.
Monica-Philadelphia
January 29, 2006   01:23 AM PST
 
I thought notasheep was being sarcastic! LOL!

Imagine my surprise.
Rob
January 26, 2006   06:22 PM PST
 
Awww... there you go again, Skye, trying to confuse liberals with FACTS!!! Don't you know by now that they operate on pure EMOTION and reasoned, rational arguments mean nothing to them?! They simply want to trash anyone they disagree with and ignore any "data" that is contrary to their talking points! I know we have to keep TRYING to hold intelligent conversations with those on the left -- but how really do you do that with the likes of Teddy Kennedy, Michael Moore, Al Sharpton, Harry Belafonte, Ray Nagin, Mary Mapes, George Soros, Ramsey Clarke, Howard Dean, Al Gore, Cynthia McKinney, Cindy Sheehan, and the list goes on and on of unstable, irrational, out-of-touch moonbats pulling the levers of power on the left? I mean REALLY, how do we deal with people of this ilk? You can show them all the facts you want but, even if they CAN understand them, they will ignore them for the sake of advancing their political agenda. The Left has become a menace to themselves and, more importantly, to all of us! It's a fight worth fighting to defeat them since it's too uncertain to count on them continuing to implode -- but it's a pretty daunting task when you see just how "off the scale" most of them are when it comes to rational thinking. Still, I applaud you for trying and pray that you will never lose your determination or convictions. We NEED people like you in the forefront of this struggle for the hearts and minds of the American people.
Old Soldier
January 26, 2006   02:57 PM PST
 
Great post with really pertinent info. Thanks, Skye.
Skye
January 26, 2006   07:56 AM PST
 

How about fixing the problems with our educational system, nd social security instead of blindly throwing more money away? The liberal answer to every social issue is simply to grab more money, and not to actually fix the problem. Then again, no problem...no money, right?

As for world hunger and AIDS, wasn't Live8 supposed to cure it??
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still thats money that coulb be used for education, soical security, AIDS, scholarships, world hunger, etc...
notAsheep
January 26, 2006   01:55 AM PST
 
$60billion estimated cost of war claimed by President’s budget office before war

$173billion approximate cost of Iraq war so far
i hope this war is a good investment
only time will tell


oh and im not a peace activist or a clinton fan
Wordsmith
January 26, 2006   01:22 AM PST
 
Asheep...the money we spend on this war is an investment that may do more good in the long term than all those "feel good" programs you'd rather spend it on.

Education is up 40% under this President than it was under the last one. We also spend almost 500 billion on education as a whole, and that's more than the 458 billion we spend on national security.

And President Bush has pledged more toward AIDS in Africa and done more than President Clinton ever did.

Skye...I find it odd that "peace" activists never think about the consequences and the price of their actions. Those who were for the anti-war movement during Vietnam...do they ever lose sleep over what happened when we pulled out of Vietnam? The millions of lives that were destroyed because they got their wish?
notAsheep
January 26, 2006   01:02 AM PST
 
still thats money that coulb be used for education, soical security, AIDS, scholarships, world hunger, etc...
 


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